[MLA] Attention Robin. Also: Re: Interesting info about Spotify normalization

[Bob Katz]

You betcha, Ian! Good observation.

Anyway, bottoms up.  Upward compression only, minimal or negligible 
effect on the mid to loud passages. This has been my proposal always! 
And make it optional, list: for noisy locations to make it clear what 
you are doing.

ROBIN, please give me a link so I can change the DNS and we can go live.


Thanks,



Bob



On 3/19/18 9:39 AM, Ian Shepherd wrote:
>> The other thing that may be related, or not, is that we know many streaming services are doing some sort of limiting
> Actually only Spotify is applying limiting at the moment, to the best of my knowledge.
>
>> It might be good to put together some technical recommendations to avoid nasty limiter implementation and tuning. If it's gonna happen, and it's happening, it might as well be done right
> Personally I think we should only discourage it from happening, but fwiw one of the AES groups has already created a freely available limiter for the purpose of achieving certain loudness targets (eg. -16 LUFS from a -23 LUFS source) I believe. I haven’t tried it out, though.
>
> My point being, the horse may already have bolted in this case. I certainly agree that MLA could make a very positive future contribution by describing the best way noisy environments can be handled in portable players, though.
>
> Personally I’ve found that top-down limiting has NO benefit in noisy environments, in fact it has a detrimental effect - the “blunting” of transients and removal of detail makes things less intelligible, not more.
>
> Ian
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