[MLA] MLA web site
Bob Katz
bobkatz at digido.com
Tue Dec 12 16:56:05 CET 2017
I like it!
Bob
On 12/11/17 9:57 AM, Robin Reumers wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Apologies for the delay in responding, it has been hectic here. I've
> made a mockup (see attached) of the site. It would have:
> - Home which has an intro (could be the text from the old website) and
> below it some news items, for example in this case the Tidal
> announcement. Every time there is something worth mentioning, it can
> be updated.
> - About Us: explains what the group is about (objectives) and maybe a
> bit about all of you. Up to you of course.
> - Papers: A list of all papers, when clicked it will open a PDF reader
> but also next to it a button to download the PDF if they want to read
> it in their own viewer
> - Links: the old weblinks from the old website
> - Contact us page: a form with CAPTCHA to be emailed to someone (could
> be Florian if you'd like). This way, the email address will never be
> visible.
>
> Please let me know if you have any remarks or comments and we'll move
> onto the design if everyone agrees.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Robin
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Gross <kevin.gross at avanw.com
> <mailto:kevin.gross at avanw.com>> wrote:
>
> I think, as a first step, we're looking to rebuild the content on
> the site before we were hacked. There's a good copy on the Wayback
> machine -
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170201231348/http://www.music-loudness.com/
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20170201231348/http://www.music-loudness.com/>
>
>
> We did not have a news section before. If we do add one I think it
> is likely to be updated just a few times a year.
>
> We did have a weblinks section with some reasonable content. We
> should probably review that to make sure it is still reasonable
> and to address any link rot issues.
>
> One piece of content we should add (to the papers section) is a
> copy of Eelco's Tidal paper -
> https://octo.hku.nl/octo/repository/getfile?id=qLlZPGSVXFM
> <https://octo.hku.nl/octo/repository/getfile?id=qLlZPGSVXFM>
>
> Maybe a website-based PDF viewer is a good idea. Most browsers
> have this capability now. For this reason, I think a simple link
> to a PDF is adequate.
>
> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com
> <mailto:bobkatz at digido.com>> wrote:
>
> I got five responses immediately on facebook. The winner I
> think is Robin Reumers. He's willing to do it for free. I have
> to see if that includes maintenance and security. I endorse
> Robin 1000%. He knows everything about everything. He was my
> assistant for two years, general manager of two SAE schools,
> is now a founder of Abbey Road Institute, has founded a plugin
> company and was chief operating officer of Galaxy Studios. I
> got him the job at Galaxy!
>
> In fact, Robin is visiting here this weekend so we could
> discuss this. I'll keep you informed.
>
> Best
>
> Bob
>
> My iPhone made me write this. Quotes only below this line.
> Nothing more to see here.
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>
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com
> <mailto:bobkatz at digido.com>> wrote:
>
>> I posted on my FB page. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
>> Kevin's idea about depending on backups to deal with security
>> has some merit because it's going to be a largely static site.
>>
>> The thing is if a hack happens then you need the expert to
>> keep it from happening again. And that's where it gets
>> costly. Reloading from a backup is all well and good but
>> where do you go from there when it gets hacked?
>>
>> Here's my post:
>>
>> Any website developers willing to watch over a non-profit
>> audio-related educational site for a yearly honorarium? We
>> might put your name on the page if it's helpful.
>>
>> Kevin Gross, Eelco Grimm, Bob Ludwig, Ian Shepherd, Florian
>> Camerer
>>
>>
>>
>> My iPhone made me write this. Quotes only below this line.
>> Nothing more to see here.
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com
>> <mailto:bobkatz at digido.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll ask on Facebook.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> My iPhone made me write this. Quotes only below this line.
>>> Nothing more to see here.
>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Grimm | Eelco
>>> <eelco at grimmaudio.com <mailto:eelco at grimmaudio.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bob and Kevin,
>>>>
>>>> So the problem is the security. My students cannot offer
>>>> that (just setting the thing up - pretty straightforward
>>>> work). And no one on this list has time for it.
>>>>
>>>> There are two solutions:
>>>> 1. We hire someone to look after security of a Wordpress
>>>> site on the digido domain.
>>>> 2. We rent a site at Weebly - yes they take care of
>>>> security since that is their core business. If we accept
>>>> some "made with Weebly" banners it is free, otherwise I
>>>> think the €7/month option fits all our needs, which is
>>>> €84/year.
>>>>
>>>> If we can find someone who can take care of security
>>>> (updates etc) of a Wordpress site for €100 / year or less,
>>>> I'm very fine with the digido solution. Otherwise Weebly
>>>> seems like a nice and cheaper choice. I could even live
>>>> with "made with Weebly" banners btw.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Eelco
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 nov. 2017, at 20:44, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com
>>>> <mailto:bobkatz at digido.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The MLA is not paying for dns OR for a site. What part of
>>>>> "Free of charge" don't you understand? If you want a
>>>>> prefab, cookie cutter look, go to Weebly OR Squarespace
>>>>> and move from zero dollars (subsidized by yours truly that
>>>>> I'm paying a helluva lot for MLAs benefit). Any amateur or
>>>>> pro is free to build the MLA site here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Www.digido.com <http://www.digido.com/> is a fabulous,
>>>>> custom site. You'll be on the same host. All you have to
>>>>> do is design.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob K
>>>>>
>>>>> My iPhone made me write this. Quotes only below this line.
>>>>> Nothing more to see here.
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Kevin Gross
>>>>> <kevin.gross at avanw.com <mailto:kevin.gross at avanw.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I was proposing an amateur build the site. Security
>>>>>> would be accomplished by a good backup that we can
>>>>>> quickly restore from. If no one thinks this is a workable
>>>>>> idea, I'm happy to move on. Despite potential bugaboos in
>>>>>> the fine print, my second choice would be something like
>>>>>> Weebly or Squarespace. My understanding is these are a
>>>>>> bit more than a Wordpress instance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Bob Katz
>>>>>> <bobkatz at digido.com <mailto:bobkatz at digido.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want an amateur to build the site and "secure"
>>>>>> it, no skin off my back. There's no reason to pay
>>>>>> Weebly or Squarespace because we already have a site
>>>>>> and I offer it free to the MLA. , and we're saving
>>>>>> money because I'm already paying the fees for the
>>>>>> MLA. Just don't come back with your tails between
>>>>>> your legs if the site gets hacked or it isn't
>>>>>> supported adequately. All we need is design,
>>>>>> maintenance and security.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hosting is hosting. Hosting is not security. Read the
>>>>>> fine print at Weebly and Squarespace. I'll bet they
>>>>>> supply the site and maybe a wordpress instance. But
>>>>>> I'll also bet If you go into the site and start
>>>>>> playing with it, then you're responsible for its
>>>>>> security and maintenance!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the guy we "hire" doesn't know how to set up an
>>>>>> empty wordpress instance himself, then he shouldn't
>>>>>> be hired. That should be the minimum requirement for
>>>>>> technical competence. I'll provide the site, the dns
>>>>>> and the subdomain for staging, and any passwords or
>>>>>> access codes that he or she needs. I can even make an
>>>>>> empty wordpress instance on our domain, but it would
>>>>>> not give me confidence to discover I had to do it
>>>>>> because the guy we "hire" couldn't do it himself!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/14/17 11:18 AM, Kevin Gross wrote:
>>>>>>> Hosting is a problem if hosting with you requires we
>>>>>>> engage a professional to secure the site. Can you
>>>>>>> set us up an empty Wordpress instance, have it
>>>>>>> backed up reliably and give Eelco access so that he
>>>>>>> can get his student volunteers to populate it for
>>>>>>> us? If you're not comfortable with this, and I'm not
>>>>>>> expecting you would be, I'm not sure I would be, we
>>>>>>> should look at alternatives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Weebly does offer pro website hosting for $12/mo.
>>>>>>> Squarespace is $18/mo. Presumably security and
>>>>>>> backup is taken care of for you on these services. I
>>>>>>> think we should be able to scrape together the
>>>>>>> $200/yr required to support this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Bob Katz
>>>>>>> <bobkatz at digido.com <mailto:bobkatz at digido.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kevin. The site is not the problem! I continue
>>>>>>> to offer it to the group for free. The DNS is
>>>>>>> already pointing. All those aspects have been
>>>>>>> taken care of by me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again: The issue is design, security and
>>>>>>> maintenance. Anyone can design a wordpress site,
>>>>>>> but not everyone can offer security, guaranteed
>>>>>>> maintenance and upkeep. It has to be a
>>>>>>> package.... you can't have an amateur design it
>>>>>>> followed by a pro to maintain it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if we find someone who knows how to do it,
>>>>>>> I'll guide him or her through the back end and
>>>>>>> even to the creation of a temporary subdomain
>>>>>>> for staging. All that is not a problem. I have
>>>>>>> that expertise and it's already being done for
>>>>>>> our site. I could set up a wordpress instance as
>>>>>>> well but like everyone on this list, I am an
>>>>>>> amateur. So we need design, maintenance and
>>>>>>> security. A package. Or we'll be hacked soon as
>>>>>>> you're born, just like every other amateur who
>>>>>>> sets up a wordpress site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's not be naive: We need someone with
>>>>>>> expertise to make it secure and to maintain it,
>>>>>>> keep all the mains and plugins up to date. Not a
>>>>>>> month goes by without one of my plugins or
>>>>>>> wordpress needing update. In many cases security
>>>>>>> issues come up and have to be responded to
>>>>>>> rapidly. That is not something you want someone
>>>>>>> casual to do. I'm very happy I have a pro
>>>>>>> maintaining those aspects of my site for me, I
>>>>>>> wear too many hats and so does everyone else on
>>>>>>> this list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know how to set up wordpress backups, that's
>>>>>>> not an issue. I am already performing offsite
>>>>>>> backups using ftp to my local redundant server
>>>>>>> and will ensure that our new wordpress site is
>>>>>>> adequately backed up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/14/17 9:31 AM, Kevin Gross wrote:
>>>>>>>> Can we agree that the first step here is to get
>>>>>>>> an empty Wordpress instance set up somewhere
>>>>>>>> and establish a security and maintenance plan
>>>>>>>> for it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have room to do this for no additional cost
>>>>>>>> at Hostmonster. I am no Wordpress expert but
>>>>>>>> could set up a new empty instance based on the
>>>>>>>> web-based systems provided by Hostmonster. I am
>>>>>>>> not watching things like a hawk so it could get
>>>>>>>> toasted again. But Hostmonster does regular
>>>>>>>> automatic backups for each account so it could
>>>>>>>> be restored or rebuilt elsewhere from backups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Bob Katz
>>>>>>>> <bobkatz at digido.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:bobkatz at digido.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Eelco. Ultimately a professional is
>>>>>>>> the best solution but my guy is too
>>>>>>>> expensive for us I think. I'm paying around
>>>>>>>> $500 a year for his maintenance and a few
>>>>>>>> thousand for the initial design.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My site runs on a highly-customized
>>>>>>>> WordPress. We do have Wordfence running but
>>>>>>>> I'm not a security expert. I do know there
>>>>>>>> was more to our security, including capcha,
>>>>>>>> and on my host I am running extra security.
>>>>>>>> I have full access to the back-end and I
>>>>>>>> have space for backup and am willing with
>>>>>>>> our group to contribute to the cost of some
>>>>>>>> necessary plugins, including updraft pro
>>>>>>>> and maybe a few others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I advise if you/we can find a very astute
>>>>>>>> student volunteer who likes audio and our
>>>>>>>> goals, who is not into cookie cutter
>>>>>>>> templates, who understands PHP and has
>>>>>>>> experience with security. Those would be
>>>>>>>> the economical ingredients. If he/she will
>>>>>>>> keep the WordPress up and up to date as a
>>>>>>>> volunteer then we ask a group can volunteer
>>>>>>>> to maintain the articles. That's all I ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I pay for the site and I host the domain. I
>>>>>>>> pay for the domain. I'm more than happy to
>>>>>>>> contribute to articles, but I have to draw
>>>>>>>> the line before site design, maintenance
>>>>>>>> and security. For that we must choose a pro
>>>>>>>> or a pro equivalent, wisely and economically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ian, I devised the original site in Joomla
>>>>>>>> and then we got hacked because I was not
>>>>>>>> maintaining the joomla. I'm through with
>>>>>>>> Joomla. I would not advise using the way
>>>>>>>> back machine or even my stored backup (if I
>>>>>>>> could find it) because more people are into
>>>>>>>> WordPress these days and Joomla or Drupal
>>>>>>>> are long in the tooth. As Eelco points out,
>>>>>>>> a good looking site in WordPress can be put
>>>>>>>> up in no time. We just want a pro or a
>>>>>>>> competent geek student to put it up, make
>>>>>>>> it secure and keep it secure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you watching over the back end of your
>>>>>>>> site like a hawk, Ian? Personally I feel
>>>>>>>> quite a lot of peace of mind having my pro
>>>>>>>> watch over my site for a measly $500 a
>>>>>>>> year. But I think that's a bit too much for
>>>>>>>> Music-Loudness to sustain, don't you? Plus,
>>>>>>>> my pro would not maintain a site he didn't
>>>>>>>> design, which seems reasonable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reminds me of the old rate sheet:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> $25 an hour if I do it
>>>>>>>> $50 an hour if you watch
>>>>>>>> $100 if I do it and you help
>>>>>>>> $200 if you do it and I watch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does this help?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My iPhone made me write this. Quotes only
>>>>>>>> below this line. Nothing more to see here.
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Ian Shepherd
>>>>>>>> <ian at mastering-media.co.uk
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ian at mastering-media.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All my sites (5 or 6) are running on
>>>>>>>>> Wordpress. I got hacked several years ago
>>>>>>>>> so installed the free versions of
>>>>>>>>> Wordfence and iThemes Security and have
>>>>>>>>> been secure ever since. Maybe Eelco’s
>>>>>>>>> students would keep an eye on things for us ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having said that, can we not pull the
>>>>>>>>> source code of the original site from the
>>>>>>>>> Wayback Machine and re-install it ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Nov 2017, at 23:27, Grimm | Eelco
>>>>>>>>>> <eelco at grimmaudio.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:eelco at grimmaudio.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you suggest as solution? Is your
>>>>>>>>>> current website based upon Wordpress or
>>>>>>>>>> some other CMS? We could maybe ask your
>>>>>>>>>> professional to maintain the MLA pages
>>>>>>>>>> too - I'm willing to contribute to that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Eelco
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Guys. We have a domain, I've got control
>>>>>>>>>>> of it and I've been paying for the
>>>>>>>>>>> domain renewals ever since we put it up
>>>>>>>>>>> However, I cannot spend the time to
>>>>>>>>>>> update it or spiff it up. If anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> would like to do the maintenance or
>>>>>>>>>>> design on it, just let me know and I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> send you all the particulars.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The thing about Wordpress is it needs
>>>>>>>>>>> constant maintenance and the number of
>>>>>>>>>>> hackers and attacks have increased
>>>>>>>>>>> tremendously. All the bad guys want to
>>>>>>>>>>> take down vulnerable worpress sites. It
>>>>>>>>>>> takes more than just a website, it takes
>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge and experience. Anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>> write a wordpress site, but keeping it
>>>>>>>>>>> up is another story. You need lots of
>>>>>>>>>>> good protections, a foolproof .htaccess
>>>>>>>>>>> file, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's why I have a professional
>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining my site. Someone who spends
>>>>>>>>>>> every day pruning all the sites under
>>>>>>>>>>> his control. There was a time when I
>>>>>>>>>>> would maintain a site myself, but I
>>>>>>>>>>> realize that I wear too many hats
>>>>>>>>>>> already and that I cannot possibly beat
>>>>>>>>>>> his knowledge and expertise. To date,
>>>>>>>>>>> not one of his sites has ever been hacked.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/11/17 4:48 PM, Grimm | Eelco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What can se do to get the MLA site
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back in a presentable state? I am in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the process of making contacts at tech
>>>>>>>>>>>>> companies (Amazon, Google) to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> loudness normalization implemented in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> streaming services and am embarrassed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refer my contacts to our website -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> music-loudness.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://music-loudness.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Students of mine have build this site
>>>>>>>>>>>> in just a day with a Wordpress
>>>>>>>>>>>> template: http://tripleacompany.nl
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://tripleacompany.nl/> (it is for
>>>>>>>>>>>> a 'virtual company' that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>> running as a group proejct in their
>>>>>>>>>>>> graduate year).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I could ask if they are willing to make
>>>>>>>>>>>> something like this for us. But we need
>>>>>>>>>>>> a domain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eelco
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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