[MLA] Loudness War in New York Times

[Ian Shepherd]

I saw it - overall I thought it was a very clear explanation for a non-technical audience, although I agree it’s a shame he didn’t use LUFS graphs !

Meanwhile I’m under sustained criticism in the “Mastering Engineers Worldwide” Facebook group from engineers who think I shouldn’t be “preaching” that loudness is bad, and shouldn’t have used the word “penalty” in the name for our site, and that I’m spreading bad information to the world…

[Sigh]

On a more positive note, please let me know of any releases you guys have done or know about that have decent dynamics - I need some good examples for the Dynamic Range Day Award next month…!

Ian





> On 8 Feb 2019, at 18:46, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, I gave in when I saw the 30 second version of Chinoy's graphics. I told him there just wasn't enough information in there. That the sonic differences between at least two different examples that they published, were not reflected in the red dots of the peak level. I said for a consumer article it was "good enough", but I would not let those graphics go in a professional context. 
> 
> Bob K. 
> 
> On 2/8/19 1:29 PM, Robert Ludwig wrote:
>> Thank you Mr. Katz, 
>> but you added far more to the context of the article by your very perceptive critique of Chinoy’s graphics
>> (The editor from the Times (Sahil Chinoy) made his own software program for measuring these things, why bother with the BS-1770 specification?)
>> I guess it makes the point well enough. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bob L.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com <mailto:bobkatz at digido.com>> wrote
>>> 
>>> Yes. Bob Ludwig and I had a lot to do with this article. We both consulted with Greg Milner on the data and the presentation.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> On 2/8/19 9:38 AM, Grimm | Eelco wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Now look at this:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/opinion/what-these-grammy-songs-tell-us-about-the-loudness-wars.html <https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/opinion/what-these-grammy-songs-tell-us-about-the-loudness-wars.html>
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Eelco
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