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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 8 Feb 2019, at 18:46, Bob Katz <<a href="mailto:bobkatz@digido.com" class="">bobkatz@digido.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class="">Unfortunately, I gave in when I saw the 30 second version of
Chinoy's graphics. I told him there just wasn't enough information
in there. That the sonic differences between at least two
different examples that they published, were not reflected in the
red dots of the peak level. I said for a consumer article it was
"good enough", but I would not let those graphics go in a
professional context. <br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/8/19 1:29 PM, Robert Ludwig wrote:<br class="">
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Thank you Mr. Katz,
<div class="">but <u class="">you</u> added far more to the
context of the article by your very perceptive critique of
Chinoy’s graphics
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<div class="">(The editor from the Times (<span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: nyt-franklin,
arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sahil Chinoy) </span>made
his own software program for measuring these things, why
bother with the BS-1770 specification?)</div>
<div class="">I guess it makes the point well enough. </div>
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<div class="">On Feb 8, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Bob Katz <<a href="mailto:bobkatz@digido.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">bobkatz@digido.com</a>>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class="">Yes. Bob Ludwig and I had a lot to do with
this article. We both consulted with Greg Milner on
the data and the presentation.</p><p class="">Bob</p><p class="">On 2/8/19 9:38 AM, Grimm | Eelco wrote:</p>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Now look at this:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/opinion/what-these-grammy-songs-tell-us-about-the-loudness-wars.html" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/opinion/what-these-grammy-songs-tell-us-about-the-loudness-wars.html</a>
Cheers,
Eelco
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