[MLA] MLA web site

Tue Nov 14 17:18:14 CET 2017

Hosting is a problem if hosting with you requires we engage a professional
to secure the site. Can you set us up an empty Wordpress instance, have it
backed up reliably and give Eelco access so that he can get his student
volunteers to populate it for us? If you're not comfortable with this, and
I'm not expecting you would be, I'm not sure I would be, we should look at
alternatives.

Weebly does offer pro website hosting for $12/mo. Squarespace is $18/mo.
Presumably security and backup is taken care of for you on these services.
I think we should be able to scrape together the $200/yr required to
support this.

Kevin Gross - AVA Networks

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com> wrote:

> Kevin. The site is not the problem! I continue to offer it to the group
> for free. The DNS is already pointing. All those aspects have been taken
> care of by me.
>
> Once again: The issue is design, security and maintenance. Anyone can
> design a wordpress site, but not everyone can offer security, guaranteed
> maintenance and upkeep. It has to be a package.... you can't have an
> amateur design it followed by a pro to maintain it.
>
> So if we find someone who knows how to do it, I'll guide him or her
> through the back end and even to the creation of a temporary subdomain for
> staging. All that is not a problem. I have that expertise and it's already
> being done for our site. I could set up a wordpress instance as well but
> like everyone on this list, I am an amateur. So we need design, maintenance
> and security. A package. Or we'll be hacked soon as you're born, just like
> every other amateur who sets up a wordpress site.
> Let's not be naive: We need someone with expertise to make it secure and
> to maintain it, keep all the mains and plugins up to date. Not a month goes
> by without one of my plugins or wordpress needing update. In many cases
> security issues come up and have to be responded to rapidly. That is not
> something you want someone casual to do. I'm very happy I have a pro
> maintaining those aspects of my site for me, I wear too many hats and so
> does everyone else on this list.
>
> I know how to set up wordpress backups, that's not an issue. I am already
> performing offsite backups using ftp to my local redundant server and will
> ensure that our new wordpress site is adequately backed up.
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On 11/14/17 9:31 AM, Kevin Gross wrote:
>
> Can we agree that the first step here is to get an empty Wordpress
> instance set up somewhere and establish a security and maintenance plan for
> it?
>
> I have room to do this for no additional cost at Hostmonster. I am no
> Wordpress expert but could set up a new empty instance based on the
> web-based systems provided by Hostmonster. I am not watching things like a
> hawk so it could get toasted again. But Hostmonster does regular automatic
> backups for each account so it could be restored or rebuilt elsewhere from
> backups.
>
> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Eelco. Ultimately a professional is the best solution but my guy is
>> too expensive for us I think. I'm paying around $500 a year for his
>> maintenance and a few thousand for the initial design.
>>
>> My site runs on a highly-customized WordPress. We do have Wordfence
>> running but I'm not a security expert. I do know there was more to our
>> security, including capcha, and on my host I am running extra security. I
>> have full access to the back-end and I have space for backup and am willing
>> with our group to contribute to the cost of some necessary plugins,
>> including updraft pro and maybe a few others.
>>
>> I advise if you/we can find a very astute student volunteer who likes
>> audio and our goals, who is not into cookie cutter templates, who
>> understands PHP and has experience with security. Those would be the
>> economical ingredients. If he/she will keep the WordPress up and up to date
>> as a volunteer then we ask a group can volunteer to maintain the articles.
>> That's all I ask.
>>
>> I pay for the site and I host the domain. I pay for the domain. I'm more
>> than happy to contribute to articles, but I have to draw the line before
>> site design, maintenance and security. For that we must choose a pro or a
>> pro equivalent, wisely and economically.
>>
>> Ian, I devised the original site in Joomla and then we got hacked because
>> I was not maintaining the joomla. I'm through with Joomla. I would not
>> advise using the way back machine or even my stored backup (if I could find
>> it) because more people are into WordPress these days and Joomla or Drupal
>> are long in the tooth. As Eelco points out, a good looking site in
>> WordPress can be put up in no time. We just want a pro or a competent geek
>> student to put it up, make it secure and keep it secure.
>>
>> Are you watching over the back end of your site like a hawk, Ian?
>> Personally I feel quite a lot of peace of mind having my pro watch over my
>> site for a measly $500 a year. But I think that's a bit too much for
>> Music-Loudness to sustain, don't you?  Plus, my pro would not maintain a
>> site he didn't design, which seems reasonable.
>>
>> Reminds me of the old rate sheet:
>>
>> $25 an hour if I do it
>> $50 an hour if you watch
>> $100 if I do it and you help
>> $200 if you do it and I watch.
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> My iPhone made me write this. Quotes only below this line. Nothing more
>> to see here.
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Ian Shepherd <ian at mastering-media.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> All my sites (5 or 6) are running on Wordpress. I got hacked several
>> years ago so installed the free versions of Wordfence and iThemes Security
>> and have been secure ever since. Maybe Eelco’s students would keep an eye
>> on things for us ?
>>
>> Having said that, can we not pull the source code of the original site
>> from the Wayback Machine and re-install it ?
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 Nov 2017, at 23:27, Grimm | Eelco <eelco at grimmaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> What do you suggest as solution? Is your current website based upon
>> Wordpress or some other CMS? We could maybe ask your professional to
>> maintain the MLA pages too - I'm willing to contribute to that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Eelco
>>
>> Guys. We have a domain, I've got control of it and I've been paying for
>> the domain renewals ever since we put it up  However, I cannot spend the
>> time to update it or spiff it up. If anyone would like to do the
>> maintenance or design on it, just let me know and I'll send you all the
>> particulars.
>>
>> The thing about Wordpress is it needs constant maintenance and the number
>> of hackers and attacks have increased tremendously. All the bad guys want
>> to take down vulnerable worpress sites. It takes more than just a website,
>> it takes knowledge and experience. Anyone can write a wordpress site, but
>> keeping it up is another story.  You need lots of good protections, a
>> foolproof .htaccess file, etc.
>>
>> That's why I have a professional maintaining my site. Someone who spends
>> every day pruning all the sites under his control. There was a time when I
>> would maintain a site myself, but I realize that I wear too many hats
>> already and that I cannot possibly beat his knowledge and expertise. To
>> date, not one of his sites has ever been hacked.
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On 11/11/17 4:48 PM, Grimm | Eelco wrote:
>>
>> What can se do to get the MLA site back in a presentable state? I am in
>> the process of making contacts at tech companies (Amazon, Google) to get
>> loudness normalization implemented in streaming services and am embarrassed
>> to refer my contacts to our website - music-loudness.com
>>
>>
>> Students of mine have build this site in just a day with a Wordpress
>> template: http://tripleacompany.nl (it is for a 'virtual company' that
>> they are running as a group proejct in their graduate year).
>>
>> I could ask if they are willing to make something like this for us. But
>> we need a domain.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Eelco
>>
>>
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