[MLA] AES paper

[Grimm | Eelco]

Hi all,

If there is no music loudness workshop yet, I guess we should organize one. Chances are high that by October both Tidal and Spotify, and - who knows - Apple, are using album style normalization on by default. That would really mean the end of the loudness war and we need to celebrate that I guess. Topics could be:

1. My Tidal research, showing why -14 LUFS and Album Normalization is the way to go for mobile (and lower levels in stationary situations of course).
2. What does the end of the loudness war mean for music mastering? Ian Shepherd could do a presentation about "mastering after the loudness war", but I am sure Bob Katz can do it too. Care should be taken that this does not overlap with the mastering workshop of course. Bob Ludwig, do you have an idea about how to avoid that?
3. We could show the new 'PSR' standard meter that Ian, Nugen, RTW, TC and Grimm Audio intend to present at a joint poster session in New York. 
4. Maybe Thomas has some interesting topic again? You deserve to be on stage now things are finally moving. 
5. Possibly an update about podcasts from SC-02-12. Perhaps a bit off-topic, but it is very interesting to see that they need a lower target level (-18 LUFS on mobile) for voice only...
6. .... (please add proposals)

I am chairing a workshop on cinema loudness already, so if someone else from MLA could take the chair position, I would be glad...

Cheers,
Eelco
> In other words, Kevin, a combined loudness workshop?  Thomas has run his "tribunal" many times in the past.... what would make it different from the panels he's run? Someone has to chair this workshop.
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> Bob
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> On 7/20/17 2:51 PM, Kevin Gross wrote:
>> I would plan on publishing your paper at the European AES in 2018. We should give ourselves time to to a reasonable job of this.
>> 
>> Your presentation in Berlin was well received and I would hope the workshop chair could find a place for it in the NY convention as a tutorial or workshop. If we can find two other new 30-minute loudness presentations, that would make for a workshop. Perhaps Bob Katz or someone from his group has something to present. It is likely the AGOTTVS group could prepare a presentation on the state of their work. Should I contact AGOTTVS leaders and see if this is so?
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>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com> wrote:
>> Eelco, try to speak to the workshops committee right away....
>> 
>> When I know more about our meeting I'll let you all know.
>> 
>> Bob
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>> On 7/18/17 5:24 PM, Grimm | Eelco wrote:
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> 
>>>> And I invite you (Eelco) to read from that preliminary paper briefly at our streaming loudness subcommittee meeting we'll be holding. 
>>> 
>>> I'd love to attend your committee meeting. Please let me know in time when that meeting will be.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Workshop? That takes a lot of preparation. Are you game for that? Needs tons of preparation, more even than reading a paper. And you have to interest the workshop's chairperson.
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>>> 
>>> I have a wonderful 30 min power point that I presented in Berlin and that needs only little updates. I guess the US audience would like to hear that too. But I do not know which workshop could host this presentation since I don't know the workshop program for this AES yet. Is there another Loudness War session? 
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> Eelco
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