[MLA] Our Change.org petition

[Thomas Lund]

Dear Bob,

It’s wonderful you’ve composed the petition you’ve long dreamt of, but there’s no reason to be dramatic when getting criticism you asked for. Savour the comments instead :-)

Streaming loudness really comes down to gain structure in PMPs. Do you think the average Joe would rather sign this petition or another one saying “Keep music audible on my iPod”? The current wording isn't great for communicating with Joe, so please think about that along with the references.

Personally, I also have WHO, CENELEC and Genelec to consider. Standing behind a loosely founded petition that is bound to annoy manufacturers and audiologists is not an option. Especially not as I'm trying hard to focus on R128 normalization in the new EN and IEC standards (hopefully to be adopted by ITU too). The timing would be terrible and I would be considered biased.

kind regards,
Thomas


> On 08/12/2015, at 05.04, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com> wrote:
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> Guys. It's clear that we're getting nowhere fast. Ian and I have decided to go on our own to create and promote this petition. I hope you all will support it in your own ways and sign when it is published. 
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> I am very sorry that the MLA has decided not to permit being the sponsor of this petition. I felt that this would give some cachet to the MLA. I am very sorry that some of you do not believe in the advocacy approach as much as I do --- because the time has come for action, not theory, not education, but motivating action. 
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> We've been colleagues for a long time, through thick and thin. To any other MLA members who feel as strongly as we do and would like to sign on to this petition initiative, please write me privately and you are welcome to join our  separate group. I hope that we will move mountains and I hope you will cheer us on regardless of your choice.
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> The next plan of our mini group is to present the petition language to the ex-president and the current president of the AES. Both of     them are extremely enthusiastic about this petition, and at least privately, I expect them to come on board. Perhaps due to their AES position they may not wish to be official members of the advocacy group, but at the very least they are on board with the principle, as are many of you already.
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> By the way, I've written a 1000 word Journal article to be published in the next Journal, if not already out. I haven't seen the Dec. edition and I think it's in there. It's about the AES Streaming loudness recommendations and includes a nice little kicker suggesting that the AES itself should devote some time to its promotion and advocacy. So even the Editor of the Journal is on board with the idea of advocacy!
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> Eelco, Ian and I have been working very hard to make this petition an inclusive approach. To be honest, I'm quite startled at some of the reactions I've seen here. However, I understand some of your wishes to maintain the MLA as an educational and informational organization. However, you know that I have proposed a petition numerous times and been voted down, and rightly so, because it was not time, not yet. But now that we have streaming as a dominant force, and a newly-minted "forever" streaming loudness war. It is now time to take stronger measures than just education. 
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> Wish us well, please,
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> Bob. 
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> P.S. I'm writing this on behalf of Ian who feels the same as I do. I am pretty sure Eelco also will go along so we can remain a group of three, but Eelco will have to tell us directly as I have not yet heard his feedback on this latest idea. 
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