[MLA] Our Change.org petition

[Kevin Gross]

MLA was founded as a technical expert group. Our work so far has been in
education and engineering on loudness topics and normalization systems. The
petition is a piece of non-technical advocacy and I don't know if I'm fully
comfortable with that. It is possible my concern could be addressed through
editing to remove some of the stridency. I would be happy to propose some
changes if you're interested. But I respect comments from Thomas and Bob
Ludwig and would like to see those addressed too.

Incidentally, I am one of the editors of the
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war article. If there is a specific
objection to something in that article, I would be happy to try and revise
it.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Thomas Lund <thomas at lund.one> wrote:

> Hi Bob L and all,
>
> I second that. It was also not easy to defend the time spent and the
> potential customer annoyance caused by engaging in this topic for >15 years
> at TC, so kindly understand the tact and requirements needed for steaming
> ahead as a group.
>
> best regards,
> Thomas
>
>
> On 07/12/2015, at 16.52, Robert Ludwig <gatewaybob at mac.com> wrote:
>
> HI Bob K.
>
> First, clearly I support this initiative, that is never in doubt.
>
> I re-read your original email where you wrote: "My proposal is that the
> MLA become the named organization behind the promulgation of this petition.
> ”
>
> Being that some of our members are in the trenches fighting the Loudness
> battle in world-class situations, and being that our names are NOT being
> signed on the petition, perhaps the MLA should NOT be the “named
> organization” but “turnmeup.org”, your own Digido.com <http://digido.com/>
> site or other.  It won’t change the impact of the petition, in fact perhaps
> there is more engineer community awareness of those sites than ours.
>
> What does the group think?
> Thanks,
> Bob L.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com> wrote:
>
> Guys, Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> We'll look at some of your thoughts and see at least if we can improve the
> links.
>
>
> As far as the title goes. We are activists, passionate about our position.
> This is a petition written by activists, designed to be put on Change.org
> <http://change.org/> to get action. It's designed to attract people to
> sign it. "Say No To A Streaming Loudness War" attracts attention, gets the
> message across well and is in tune with the idea of what a petition is
> supposed to do.
>
> Do you want this to languish in "We're not activists, we're just apathetic
> engineers, so sign our petition if you care, but anyway, have a nice day."
>
>
> Be an activist. Support an activist title for this petition!
>
>
>
> Bob K.
>
>
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