<div dir="ltr">Although most of us have convinced ourselves that -14 or -16 LUFS is a good target for all releases, user experience doesn't necessarily support this. These target levels hit some limits in terms of player capability (especially when the option to use alternative headphones/earbuds is taken into account), HLP issues and, most practically, without something like NORM-L, disabling -14 or -16 LUFS loudness normalization makes most tracks louder. Listeners generally assume louder=better so we could end up losing our own loudness war here. The -11 option is perhaps Spotifiy's solution to this. If users are unsatisfied with -14, adding a well-processed -11 option is probably much better than disabling normalization.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Kevin Gross - AVA Networks</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Grimm | Eelco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eelco@grimmaudio.com" target="_blank">eelco@grimmaudio.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">> Another interesting Spotify thing though - two people have emailed me to say that their latest iOS versions have three different normalisation choices:<br>
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> Loud (-11)<br>
> Normal (-14)<br>
> Quiet (??)<br>
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</span>Oh no! That would mean mastering engineers will target -11 again. I will contact my Spotify guy asap.<br>
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All the best,<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">Eelco<br>
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