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    <p>I approve. I unvolunteered from the job of webmaster eons ago.</p>
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    <p>Bob</p>
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    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/22/18 10:57 AM, Kevin Gross wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CALw1_Q0yW1K9Yqhp_o2mCOgkZnmq=61_B-ZUUmz9m+-20XAd6w@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr">If there is no one else who wants to volunteer as
        webmaster, I can do it for now. I can log in and make the
        uncontroversial changes I've requested in this thread. I should
        be able to do this later this week and then we can go live.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Kevin Gross - AVA Networks</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Robin
          Reumers <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:robinreumers@gmail.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">robinreumers@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi all,
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I just wanted to follow up to see if there is
                anything else you expect from me? I’m not sure what the
                current status is, or who will be the eventual
                webmaster, but please let me know what else you need
                from me :)</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Best wishes,</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Robin</div>
              <div>
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                        <div>On 09 Jan 2018, at 16:46, Kevin Gross <<a
                            href="mailto:kevin.gross@avanw.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kevin.gross@avanw.com</a>>
                          wrote:</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">The email we're talking about
                            is initial contact from strangers. Further
                            communication would happen through other
                            email addresses. The email address we use to
                            forward these initial contacts will not be
                            visible to people who contact us. I, or
                            whomever ends up receiving these, will not
                            reply directly to people who contact us, we
                            will delete spam and forward legit messages
                            to our email reflector. I don't expect we
                            would get frequent initial contacts so don't
                            expect a big workload here. I have a similar
                            contact page on my own website and I get a
                            few contacts a month and most are spammy.
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Let's concentrate on getting minimal
                              acceptable content on the new site so we
                              can turn it on. We can add pictures and
                              other fun stuff as a second pass. Now that
                              we have the keys, is there someone who
                              wants to volunteer to be webmaster?</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Kevin Gross - AVA
                                  Networks</div>
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                            <br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 9, 2018
                              at 4:50 AM, Ian Shepherd <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:ian@mastering-media.co.uk" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">ian@mastering-media.co.uk</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                  Hi Robin,
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Thanks from me, too.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>I think we should use a generic
                                    email address rather than have one
                                    person receive all the submissions -
                                    aside from the workload involved, we
                                    often have healthy debates (!) here
                                    about various issues, and speaking
                                    for myself I’m not sure that I would
                                    feel confident writing a reply that
                                    I could be certain would reflect all
                                    our voices accurately on every
                                    issue.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>We could put “about” information
                                    on the homepage perhaps, but we do
                                    have that great photo that Mary took
                                    of almost all of us at the AES - if
                                    we added Thomas and Florian we could
                                    use that, perhaps, to give a more
                                    approachable feel to the site ?</div>
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                                      <div>Ian</div>
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                                            <div>On 9 Jan 2018, at
                                              09:18, Robin Reumers <<a
href="mailto:robinreumers@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">robinreumers@gmail.com</a>>
                                              wrote:</div>
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                                                style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi
                                                all,
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>I created an
                                                  account for all of you
                                                  as editor:</div>
                                                <div><a
                                                    href="http://music-loudness.eu-central-1.elasticbeanstalk.com/wp-admin"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://music-loudness.eu-centr<wbr>al-1.elasticbeanstalk.com/wp-<wbr>admin</a></div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Username: mla</div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>Password:
                                                    (l)*50L83cIV0fN21dGRSECY</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>The email on the
                                                    contact page gets
                                                    sent to the email
                                                    address of the
                                                    admin. I can
                                                    therefor set this up
                                                    as "<a
                                                      href="mailto:kevin.gross@avanw.com"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">kevin.gross@avanw.com</a>”. </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>As for the About
                                                    Us page, I’ll leave
                                                    this up to you to
                                                    delete it if you all
                                                    agree.</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Best wishes,</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Robin</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <blockquote
                                                        type="cite">
                                                        <div>On 09 Jan
                                                          2018, at
                                                          01:16, Kevin
                                                          Gross <<a
                                                          href="mailto:kevin.gross@avanw.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kevin.gross@avanw.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
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                                                          <div>Thanks
                                                          for your
                                                          efforts Robin.
                                                          The site looks
                                                          great.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Our
                                                          former site
                                                          did not have
                                                          an About Us
                                                          page. We
                                                          simply used
                                                          the home page
                                                          for this
                                                          information.
                                                          Unless someone
                                                          wants to
                                                          volunteer some
                                                          content for
                                                          both pages, I
                                                          suggest we
                                                          delete About
                                                          Us and put all
                                                          that on the
                                                          home page.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The About
                                                          Us information
                                                          is different
                                                          than we had on
                                                          our former
                                                          home page (<a
href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170201231348/http://www.music-loudness.com/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://web.archive.org/web/2<wbr>0170201231348/http://www.music<wbr>-loudness.com/</a>).
                                                          If others are
                                                          agreeable, I
                                                          can combine
                                                          the two into
                                                          new updated
                                                          content for
                                                          the home page.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I'm getting a,
                                                          "Failed to
                                                          fetch" error
                                                          opening the
                                                          whitepaper. In
                                                          addition to
                                                          onsite reader,
                                                          we should also
                                                          have a link
                                                          for simple PDF
                                                          download.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The Links
                                                          page is empty.
                                                          We had a bunch
                                                          of content
                                                          here on the
                                                          original site
                                                          (<a
href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170111220534/http://music-loudness.com/index.php/weblinks"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://web.archive.org/web/2<wbr>0170111220534/http://music-lou<wbr>dness.com/index.php/weblinks</a>)</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I agree
                                                          that a single
                                                          login is
                                                          needed for
                                                          doing content
                                                          updates. It is
                                                          probably best
                                                          to designate
                                                          one of us as
                                                          webmaster.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I would
                                                          be happy to
                                                          receive
                                                          Contact page
                                                          submissions
                                                          through my
                                                          email address
                                                          and forward
                                                          non-spam
                                                          submissions to
                                                          the MLA
                                                          reflector. I
                                                          don't think we
                                                          need <a
                                                          href="mailto:mla@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mla@gmail.com</a>, just change
                                                          the email
                                                          address used
                                                          behind the
                                                          scenes by the
                                                          website as
                                                          necessary.</div>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Kevin
                                                          Gross - AVA
                                                          Networks</div>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Fri, Jan 5,
                                                          2018 at 3:19
                                                          PM, Grimm |
                                                          Eelco <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:eelco@grimmaudio.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">eelco@grimmaudio.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi
                                                          Bob and Robin,<br>
                                                          <span><br>
                                                          > I'd like
                                                          to see a link
                                                          on the word
                                                          "here" to the
                                                          white paper in
                                                          the About Us
                                                          page. The
                                                          title of the
                                                          paper is not
                                                          "Tidal
                                                          Loudness
                                                          Normalization"
                                                          but "Loudness
                                                          Normalization:
                                                          The Future of
                                                          File-Based
                                                          Playback".<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>Yes,
                                                          those are
                                                          definitely two
                                                          different
                                                          papers. We
                                                          should
                                                          distinghuish
                                                          between true
                                                          MLA
                                                          publications
                                                          and efforts
                                                          that are just
                                                          linked to MLA,
                                                          like the <a
                                                          href="http://change.org/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">change.org</a>
                                                          petition and
                                                          my Tidal
                                                          paper.<br>
                                                          <span><br>
                                                          > Need a
                                                          link for "read
                                                          his paper".
                                                          Eelco will
                                                          tell you if he
                                                          wants to have
                                                          his paper in
                                                          the MLA
                                                          repository or
                                                          to point to
                                                          the paper at a
                                                          place he
                                                          administers.
                                                          If it points
                                                          outside of the
                                                          site the link
                                                          should open in
                                                          a new tab or
                                                          window.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>I am
                                                          fine with
                                                          putting the
                                                          paper at the
                                                          MLA website
                                                          too.<br>
                                                          <span><br>
                                                          > Where
                                                          does the
                                                          contact us
                                                          email go to?
                                                          If the address
                                                          is hidden from
                                                          the writer
                                                          (which it
                                                          should be)
                                                          then perhaps
                                                          the best thing
                                                          would be to
                                                          have their
                                                          letter go to
                                                          our maillist.
                                                          What is the
                                                          return email
                                                          address that
                                                          the site gives
                                                          when it sends
                                                          an email?
                                                          Eelco, who
                                                          administers
                                                          the maillist,
                                                          would have to
                                                          authorize that
                                                          address as a
                                                          member of the
                                                          maillist in
                                                          order for the
                                                          list to
                                                          receive emails
                                                          sent through
                                                          the site. Do
                                                          you have any
                                                          kind of
                                                          anti-spam
                                                          utility that
                                                          will reduce
                                                          garbage emails
                                                          sent through
                                                          the site?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>Hmm, I
                                                          don't know if
                                                          that is wise
                                                          Bob. We could
                                                          indeed be
                                                          spammed since
                                                          the mailing
                                                          list does not
                                                          have proper
                                                          anti-spam
                                                          filters and
                                                          our reflector
                                                          should always
                                                          travel through
                                                          our own
                                                          filters. It
                                                          would probably
                                                          be best to
                                                          have contact
                                                          messages be
                                                          send to a
                                                          gmail account,
                                                          Google is
                                                          pretty good at
                                                          keeping spam
                                                          out. We could
                                                          even have an <a
href="mailto:mla@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mla@gmail.com</a>
                                                          account. The
                                                          question is
                                                          who takes
                                                          responsibility
                                                          to read it...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers,<br>
                                                          Eelco<br>
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                                                          list<br>
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                                                          href="mailto:MLA@grimmaudio.nl"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">MLA@grimmaudio.nl</a><br>
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