<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>Do we care if there are advertisements on the site? We could also just take a free website at Weebly: <a href="https://www.weebly.com/?lang=en">https://www.weebly.com/?lang=en</a>.</div><div>AFAIK the advertisements are just 'Made with Weebly' banners, no 3rd part ads (like with a free Mailchimp account). And we have to link our domain to the <a href="http://weebly.com">weebly.com</a> subdomain. Plus it is 500 MB max... </div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Eelco</div><br><div><div>On 14 nov. 2017, at 15:01, Bob Katz <<a href="mailto:bobkatz@digido.com">bobkatz@digido.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto">Dear Eelco. Ultimately a professional is the best solution but my guy is too expensive for us I think. I'm paying around $500 a year for his maintenance and a few thousand for the initial design. <div><br></div><div>My site runs on a highly-customized WordPress. We do have Wordfence running but I'm not a security expert. I do know there was more to our security, including capcha, and on my host I am running extra security. I have full access to the back-end and I have space for backup and am willing with our group to contribute to the cost of some necessary plugins, including updraft pro and maybe a few others. <div><br></div><div>I advise if you/we can find a very astute student volunteer who likes audio and our goals, who is not into cookie cutter templates, who understands PHP and has experience with security. Those would be the economical ingredients. If he/she will keep the WordPress up and up to date as a volunteer then we ask a group can volunteer to maintain the articles. That's all I ask. </div><div><br></div><div>I pay for the site and I host the domain. I pay for the domain. I'm more than happy to contribute to articles, but I have to draw the line before site design, maintenance and security. For that we must choose a pro or a pro equivalent, wisely and economically. </div><div><br></div><div>Ian, I devised the original site in Joomla and then we got hacked because I was not maintaining the joomla. I'm through with Joomla. I would not advise using the way back machine or even my stored backup (if I could find it) because more people are into WordPress these days and Joomla or Drupal are long in the tooth. As Eelco points out, a good looking site in WordPress can be put up in no time. We just want a pro or a competent geek student to put it up, make it secure and keep it secure. </div><div><br></div><div>Are you watching over the back end of your site like a hawk, Ian? Personally I feel quite a lot of peace of mind having my pro watch over my site for a measly $500 a year. But I think that's a bit too much for Music-Loudness to sustain, don't you? Plus, my pro would not maintain a site he didn't design, which seems reasonable. </div><div><br></div><div>Reminds me of the old rate sheet: </div><div><br></div><div>$25 an hour if I do it</div><div>$50 an hour if you watch</div><div>$100 if I do it and you help</div><div>$200 if you do it and I watch. </div><div><br></div><div>Does this help? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Bob<br><br><div>My iPhone made me write this. Quotes only below this line. Nothing more to see here. <div>----------------------------------------------------</div></div><div><br>On Nov 13, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Ian Shepherd <<a href="mailto:ian@mastering-media.co.uk">ian@mastering-media.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><div apple-content-edited="true" class=""><br class="">
</div><div class="">Hi Bob,</div><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="">All my sites (5 or 6) are running on Wordpress. I got hacked several years ago so installed the free versions of Wordfence and iThemes Security and have been secure ever since. Maybe Eelco’s students would keep an eye on things for us ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Having said that, can we not pull the source code of the original site from the Wayback Machine and re-install it ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ian</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 13 Nov 2017, at 23:27, Grimm | Eelco <<a href="mailto:eelco@grimmaudio.com" class="">eelco@grimmaudio.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi Bob,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What do you suggest as solution? Is your current website based upon Wordpress or some other CMS? We could maybe ask your professional to maintain the MLA pages too - I'm willing to contribute to that.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Eelco</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class="">Guys. We have a domain, I've got control of it and I've been
paying for the domain renewals ever since we put it up However, I
cannot spend the time to update it or spiff it up. If anyone would
like to do the maintenance or design on it, just let me know and
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</p><p class="">The thing about Wordpress is it needs constant maintenance and
the number of hackers and attacks have increased tremendously. All
the bad guys want to take down vulnerable worpress sites. It takes
more than just a website, it takes knowledge and experience.
Anyone can write a wordpress site, but keeping it up is another
story. You need lots of good protections, a foolproof .htaccess
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</p><p class="">That's why I have a professional maintaining my site. Someone who
spends every day pruning all the sites under his control. There
was a time when I would maintain a site myself, but I realize that
I wear too many hats already and that I cannot possibly beat his
knowledge and expertise. To date, not one of his sites has ever
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<div dir="ltr" class="">What can se do to get the MLA site back in a
presentable state? I am in the process of making contacts at
tech companies (Amazon, Google) to get loudness
normalization implemented in streaming services and am
embarrassed to refer my contacts to our website - <a href="http://music-loudness.com/" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">music-loudness.com</a></div>
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<div class="">Students of mine have build this site in just a day with a
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a 'virtual company' that they are running as a group proejct in
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