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<p>Kevin. The site is not the problem! I continue to offer it to the
group for free. The DNS is already pointing. All those aspects
have been taken care of by me. <br>
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<p>Once again: The issue is design, security and maintenance. Anyone
can design a wordpress site, but not everyone can offer security,
guaranteed maintenance and upkeep. It has to be a package.... you
can't have an amateur design it followed by a pro to maintain it.
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<p>So if we find someone who knows how to do it, I'll guide him or
her through the back end and even to the creation of a temporary
subdomain for staging. All that is not a problem. I have that
expertise and it's already being done for our site. I could set up
a wordpress instance as well but like everyone on this list, I am
an amateur. So we need design, maintenance and security. A
package. Or we'll be hacked soon as you're born, just like every
other amateur who sets up a wordpress site. <br>
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Let's not be naive: We need someone with expertise to make it secure
and to maintain it, keep all the mains and plugins up to date. Not a
month goes by without one of my plugins or wordpress needing update.
In many cases security issues come up and have to be responded to
rapidly. That is not something you want someone casual to do. I'm
very happy I have a pro maintaining those aspects of my site for me,
I wear too many hats and so does everyone else on this list. <br>
<p> I know how to set up wordpress backups, that's not an issue. I
am already performing offsite backups using ftp to my local
redundant server and will ensure that our new wordpress site is
adequately backed up. <br>
</p>
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<p>Bob</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/14/17 9:31 AM, Kevin Gross wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Can we agree that the f<span
style="font-size:12.8px">irst step here is to get an empty
Wordpress instance set up somewhere and establish a security
and maintenance plan for it?</span>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I have room to do this for
no additional cost at Hostmonster. I am no Wordpress expert
but could set up a new empty instance based on the web-based
systems provided by Hostmonster. I am not watching things
like a hawk so it could get toasted again. But Hostmonster
does regular automatic backups for each account so it could
be restored or rebuilt elsewhere from backups.</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Bob
Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bobkatz@digido.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bobkatz@digido.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="auto">Dear Eelco. Ultimately a professional is the
best solution but my guy is too expensive for us I think.
I'm paying around $500 a year for his maintenance and a
few thousand for the initial design.
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<div>My site runs on a highly-customized WordPress. We do
have Wordfence running but I'm not a security expert. I
do know there was more to our security, including
capcha, and on my host I am running extra security. I
have full access to the back-end and I have space for
backup and am willing with our group to contribute to
the cost of some necessary plugins, including updraft
pro and maybe a few others.
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<div>I advise if you/we can find a very astute student
volunteer who likes audio and our goals, who is not
into cookie cutter templates, who understands PHP and
has experience with security. Those would be the
economical ingredients. If he/she will keep the
WordPress up and up to date as a volunteer then we ask
a group can volunteer to maintain the articles. That's
all I ask. </div>
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<div>I pay for the site and I host the domain. I pay for
the domain. I'm more than happy to contribute to
articles, but I have to draw the line before site
design, maintenance and security. For that we must
choose a pro or a pro equivalent, wisely and
economically. </div>
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<div>Ian, I devised the original site in Joomla and then
we got hacked because I was not maintaining the
joomla. I'm through with Joomla. I would not advise
using the way back machine or even my stored backup
(if I could find it) because more people are into
WordPress these days and Joomla or Drupal are long in
the tooth. As Eelco points out, a good looking site in
WordPress can be put up in no time. We just want a pro
or a competent geek student to put it up, make it
secure and keep it secure. </div>
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<div>Are you watching over the back end of your site
like a hawk, Ian? Personally I feel quite a lot of
peace of mind having my pro watch over my site for a
measly $500 a year. But I think that's a bit too much
for Music-Loudness to sustain, don't you? Plus, my
pro would not maintain a site he didn't design, which
seems reasonable. </div>
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<div>Reminds me of the old rate sheet: </div>
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<div>$25 an hour if I do it</div>
<div>$50 an hour if you watch</div>
<div>$100 if I do it and you help</div>
<div>$200 if you do it and I watch. </div>
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<div>Does this help? </div>
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<div>Bob<br>
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iPhone made me write this. Quotes only below this
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On Nov 13, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Ian Shepherd <<a
href="mailto:ian@mastering-media.co.uk"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ian@mastering-media.co.uk</a>>
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<div>All my sites (5 or 6) are running on
Wordpress. I got hacked several years ago so
installed the free versions of Wordfence and
iThemes Security and have been secure ever
since. Maybe Eelco’s students would keep an
eye on things for us ?</div>
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<div>Having said that, can we not pull the
source code of the original site from the
Wayback Machine and re-install it ?</div>
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<div>Ian</div>
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<div>On 13 Nov 2017, at 23:27, Grimm |
Eelco <<a
href="mailto:eelco@grimmaudio.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">eelco@grimmaudio.com</a>>
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<div>Hi Bob,</div>
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<div>What do you suggest as solution?
Is your current website based upon
Wordpress or some other CMS? We
could maybe ask your professional to
maintain the MLA pages too - I'm
willing to contribute to that.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Eelco</div>
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<p>Guys. We have a domain, I've
got control of it and I've
been paying for the domain
renewals ever since we put it
up However, I cannot spend
the time to update it or spiff
it up. If anyone would like to
do the maintenance or design
on it, just let me know and
I'll send you all the
particulars. <br>
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<p>The thing about Wordpress is
it needs constant maintenance
and the number of hackers and
attacks have increased
tremendously. All the bad guys
want to take down vulnerable
worpress sites. It takes more
than just a website, it takes
knowledge and experience.
Anyone can write a wordpress
site, but keeping it up is
another story. You need lots
of good protections, a
foolproof .htaccess file, etc.
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<p>That's why I have a
professional maintaining my
site. Someone who spends every
day pruning all the sites
under his control. There was a
time when I would maintain a
site myself, but I realize
that I wear too many hats
already and that I cannot
possibly beat his knowledge
and expertise. To date, not
one of his sites has ever been
hacked. <br>
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<p>Bob<br>
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11/11/17 4:48 PM, Grimm |
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<div dir="ltr">What can se
do to get the MLA site
back in a presentable
state? I am in the
process of making
contacts at tech
companies (Amazon,
Google) to get loudness
normalization
implemented in streaming
services and am
embarrassed to refer my
contacts to our website
- <a
href="http://music-loudness.com/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">music-loudness.com</a></div>
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<div>Students of mine have
build this site in just a
day with a Wordpress
template: <a
href="http://tripleacompany.nl/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://<wbr>tripleacompany.nl</a>
(it is for a 'virtual
company' that they are
running as a group proejct
in their graduate year).</div>
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<div>I could ask if they are
willing to make something
like this for us. But we
need a domain.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Eelco</div>
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