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</div><div class="">Since we’re venting (let’s get all the negativity out of the way prior to AES!) I’ve been really disappointed listening to the Foo Fighters album today. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Despite my positive reports about the dynamics of the first single from the album, large sections of it are a squashed, distorted mess :-(</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Which is a real shame, because some of it sounds pretty good, although there’s too much saturation distortion for my taste, and the drums are all flat as pancakes (which seems to be what Dave Growl likes). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It actually has quite wide macro-dynamics, (LRA 11 !) oddly enough - but the loudest moments are really difficult for me to listen to, even with the volume down.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Discogs has the same engineer credited for mixing and mastering, I wonder if that’s accurate and/or significant...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 19 Sep 2017, at 15:00, Kevin Gross <<a href="mailto:kevin.gross@comcast.net" class="">kevin.gross@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Normalized platforms aren't going to be much help when those responsible don't fail squashed recordings. Normalization only helps us address the loudness war where the motivation for the loudness is to encourage higher playback levels. If the artists, AR people and Grammy-winning mixers aren't bothered by the sound of squash, we're going to keep hearing it.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Listeners have been hearing squash for 20 years now. That's a whole generation of listeners who expect music to sound like this regardless of where they set their volume control. They've also been doing most of their listening on the go in noisy environments or through portable systems that may not sound so good for dynamic recordings.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Loudness normalization, among other things, gives producers the _option_ to release competitive unsquashed recordings. Not everyone is going to exercise this option. All we can do is ensure that the option is available and make producers aware of the option.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We can also publicly shame producers for releasing squashed recordings, but that's a subjective and artistic argument and I don't think flinging poo like this will help further our cause and it is certainly not going to endear Bob or Bob or Ian to their clients.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:02 AM, Thomas Lund <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:thomas@lund.one" target="_blank" class="">thomas@lund.one</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi Bob,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sad. The word hasn’t reached everywhere yet, and I’m afraid only more normalized platforms quickly can help the situation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I was speaking recently at MPG in London where a good mastering engineer asked that I drop a song brought on USB into the normalization listening examples. The track was linear PCM directly from a client, measuring -5.6 LUFS upon arrival. It became a hit regardlessly.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">cheers,</div><div class="">Thomas</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 Sep 2017, at 22.40, Robert Ludwig <<a href="mailto:gatewaybob@mac.com" target="_blank" class="">gatewaybob@mac.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-4548102984327964259Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi everyone,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I just got in a project in from one of the <u class="">biggest-name </u>Grammy winning mixers and this is what he sent the artist as a listening reference!</div><div class="">This sounds as distorted and unconscionable as it looks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(sorry, I feel better now after having shared).</div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Bob L.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="m_-4548102984327964259cid:E982CC18-5168-41B9-AFAC-D021F604B158" class=""><Client ref.jpg></span></div></div></div>______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">MLA mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:MLA@grimmaudio.nl" target="_blank" class="">MLA@grimmaudio.nl</a><br class=""><a href="http://grimmaudio.nl/mailman/listinfo/mla_grimmaudio.nl" target="_blank" class="">http://grimmaudio.nl/mailman/<wbr class="">listinfo/mla_grimmaudio.nl</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div><br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">
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