<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Hi Bob K.</div><div>Bring it on!</div><div><br></div><div>Bob L.</div><div><br>On Apr 24, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Bob Katz <<a href="mailto:bobkatz@digido.com">bobkatz@digido.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div>
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<p>I think Thomas is much too sensitive about this subject of album
norm. No one is misdirecting this effort. Of course all of us are
preaching the same thing and the same priorities. <br>
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<p>I just have taken on an additional evangelizing task on top of
all other evangelizing. I can present very strong technical
evidence that album normalization has some serious technical
advantages in addition to its esthetic advantages. This is quite
clear evidence so I'm already evangelizing wherever I can. You
guys need to hear that technical argument. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/24/17 5:59 AM,
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<p>Hi everyone,<br>
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<p>I do agree with Thomas but don't word it like that :-)<br>
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<p>I would say that the division of work is not too bad - I see
myself and Thomas on the more basic side of things, getting
loudness norm spread as much as possible and on all platforms.
This is paramount. Once everyone is totally comfortable with
that being the only way to level audio we can progress to more
detailed work. But I appreciate that some of you (Bob K
and Eelco in particular) already do some of the detailed work.
It will be useful in the future at the latest, occasionally also
very soon (like with Tidal).<br>
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<p>Many countries have not yet moved to loudness norm in general,
and we need to change everyone's mindset. The evangelising is by
far not over. <br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">So yes, Thomas and I will
continue to preach the general idea :-)</span><br>
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<p>Please keep this in mind when communicating with audiences who
don't have the level of understanding and expertise that we
have.<br>
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<p>On a more specific note, I have also done Eelco's test (just
now). Interesting stuff!<br>
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<p>And congrats to Eelco for setting this up. I am sure we will
discuss results once Eelco has done his presentation. I can only
say so much to my impression: it is fully in line with what I
said above....<br>
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<p>All the best, Florian<br>
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<div>Hi Bob K and Bob L,
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<div class="">It’s a great pity with Avenged and many other
bands coming to this sort of conclusion.</div>
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<div class="">Loudness normalization on as many platforms as
possible as quickly as possible is way more important than
details we tend to get caught up with.</div>
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<div class="">The next couple of years will be spent with the
TV/drama people discussing loudness vs dialog and music
folks discuss single vs album. Technicalities while cultural
heritage continues to suffer.</div>
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<div class="">cheers,</div>
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