<div dir="ltr">Sorry that it took such a while to get to this but I have today made some improvements to the Loudness War article - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Loudness_war&diff=733727064&oldid=728289259">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Loudness_war&diff=733727064&oldid=728289259</a><div><br></div><div>Be aware that on Wikipedia, for perspective and balance, we prefer to use secondary and tertiary sources. Information directly from the original researchers is sometimes acceptable if published independently with editorial control or peer review. For these reasons I have not attempted to address the request for citation of peak levels or tried to expand information on streaming loudness.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Grimm | Eelco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eelco@grimmaudio.com" target="_blank">eelco@grimmaudio.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just found one other reference, a quite weak one unfortunately.<br>
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In <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/technology/article/art20130717124204700" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/<wbr>technology/article/<wbr>art20130717124204700</a><br>
is stated: "If all programmes were made to the same target loudness, this would allow all shows to have the style of sound they want – and would also address around 40% of the BBC’s current complaints."<br>
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The exact number of complaints is not given unfortunately. Maybe the Moerman reference is better?<br>
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All the best,<br>
Eelco<br>
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On 8 feb. 2016, at 23:27, Grimm | Eelco <<a href="mailto:eelco@grimmaudio.com">eelco@grimmaudio.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Loudness jumps between broadcast channels and between programmes within the same channel, and between programs and intervening adverts are a frequent source of audience complaints.[citation needed]<br>
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>> I think Eelco has a reference for the above (source of audience complaints)<br>
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> I've done a little search in my files. There's not many publications about statistical data of audience complaints related to audio. I found this:<br>
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> In Jean-Paul Moerman, "Loudness in TV Sound", AES preprint 6039, <a href="http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=12650" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.aes.org/e-lib/<wbr>browse.cfm?elib=12650</a>, page 8:<br>
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> "We started this paper with viewer complaints. At Belgian National Broadcasters VRT, located in Brussels, about 140 complaints pro year were about sound. Since the implementation of the master plan there was a spectacular downfall to 3 complaints in 2003. This demonstrates again the efficiency of the master plan."<br>
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> Mark that the 'master plan' incorporated implementation of a dynamic range compressor - this was back in 2004...<br>
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> All the best,<br>
> Eelco<br>
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