From eelco at grimmaudio.com  Thu Dec 23 14:34:42 2021
From: eelco at grimmaudio.com (Grimm | Eelco)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 14:34:42 +0100
Subject: [MLA] Apple seems to have turned Soundcheck ON by default...
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Dear friends,

I?m sure this message from a facebook mastering engineers forum will enlighten your Christmas?

"FWIW, I just set up a new MacBook Pro which came with MacOS Monterey already installed, and Sound Check was ON by default.
Apple may finally be moving to having Loudness Normalization on by default which will take awhile to affect all or a majority of users, but it's a start.
I also set up a new iPhone a few weeks ago and I just checked and Sound Check was also turned on, but I can't say with 100% certainty that I didn't turn that on myself because I didn't think to check when I first set it up.
For computers and phones I always do a clean install, but I'm not sure what this means for users who choose to migrate all their settings from their old device.
Either way, it looks like Apple's shift is slowly happening and they'll no longer be the oddball streaming service that doesn't have it on by default in their desktop and mobile apps. 
- Justin Perkins?

Enjoy?

All the best,
Eelco

From gatewaybob at icloud.com  Thu Dec 23 15:14:41 2021
From: gatewaybob at icloud.com (Robert Ludwig)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 09:14:41 -0500
Subject: [MLA] Apple seems to have turned Soundcheck ON by default...
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Hi Eelco!

Thanks for this!
Perhaps Apple embracing Atmos has led to this?


> On Dec 23, 2021, at 8:35 AM, Grimm | Eelco <eelco at grimmaudio.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Dear friends,
> 
> I?m sure this message from a facebook mastering engineers forum will enlighten your Christmas?
> 
> "FWIW, I just set up a new MacBook Pro which came with MacOS Monterey already installed, and Sound Check was ON by default.
> Apple may finally be moving to having Loudness Normalization on by default which will take awhile to affect all or a majority of users, but it's a start.
> I also set up a new iPhone a few weeks ago and I just checked and Sound Check was also turned on, but I can't say with 100% certainty that I didn't turn that on myself because I didn't think to check when I first set it up.
> For computers and phones I always do a clean install, but I'm not sure what this means for users who choose to migrate all their settings from their old device.
> Either way, it looks like Apple's shift is slowly happening and they'll no longer be the oddball streaming service that doesn't have it on by default in their desktop and mobile apps. 
> - Justin Perkins?
> 
> Enjoy?
> 
> All the best,
> Eelco
> _______________________________________________
> MLA mailing list
> MLA at grimmaudio.nl
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From eelco at grimmaudio.com  Thu Dec 23 17:12:21 2021
From: eelco at grimmaudio.com (Grimm | Eelco)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:12:21 +0100
Subject: [MLA] Apple seems to have turned Soundcheck ON by default...
In-Reply-To: <FFFB9CB2-E9F9-4502-BB6F-C2525FD81C58@icloud.com>
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	<FFFB9CB2-E9F9-4502-BB6F-C2525FD81C58@icloud.com>
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Hi Bob,

> Thanks for this!
> Perhaps Apple embracing Atmos has led to this?

I?d rather think that the work on AES td1008 has given the final push. Buddy Judge participated from the start on behalf of Apple? Perhaps this ?international standard? was the ammunition that Buddy needed to convince his management (he told me something along that line in a private meeting once).

Warmest,
Eelco

> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2021, at 8:35 AM, Grimm | Eelco <eelco at grimmaudio.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Dear friends,
>> 
>> I?m sure this message from a facebook mastering engineers forum will enlighten your Christmas?
>> 
>> "FWIW, I just set up a new MacBook Pro which came with MacOS Monterey already installed, and Sound Check was ON by default.
>> Apple may finally be moving to having Loudness Normalization on by default which will take awhile to affect all or a majority of users, but it's a start.
>> I also set up a new iPhone a few weeks ago and I just checked and Sound Check was also turned on, but I can't say with 100% certainty that I didn't turn that on myself because I didn't think to check when I first set it up.
>> For computers and phones I always do a clean install, but I'm not sure what this means for users who choose to migrate all their settings from their old device.
>> Either way, it looks like Apple's shift is slowly happening and they'll no longer be the oddball streaming service that doesn't have it on by default in their desktop and mobile apps. 
>> - Justin Perkins?
>> 
>> Enjoy?
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Eelco
>> _______________________________________________
>> MLA mailing list
>> MLA at grimmaudio.nl
>> http://grimmaudio.nl/mailman/listinfo/mla_grimmaudio.nl
> 
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From gatewaybob at me.com  Thu Dec 23 19:40:56 2021
From: gatewaybob at me.com (Robert Ludwig)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 13:40:56 -0500
Subject: [MLA] Apple seems to have turned Soundcheck ON by default...
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Eelco,

My daughter just go a Monteray MacBook Pro and I had her open up Apple Music and Sound Check was NOT checked.

I don?t know if she imported her files from her old MacBook pro and that setting was copied from that!

Best,
Bob

> On Dec 23, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Grimm | Eelco <eelco at grimmaudio.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
>> Thanks for this!
>> Perhaps Apple embracing Atmos has led to this?
> 
> I?d rather think that the work on AES td1008 has given the final push. Buddy Judge participated from the start on behalf of Apple? Perhaps this ?international standard? was the ammunition that Buddy needed to convince his management (he told me something along that line in a private meeting once).
> 
> Warmest,
> Eelco
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2021, at 8:35 AM, Grimm | Eelco <eelco at grimmaudio.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Dear friends,
>>> 
>>> I?m sure this message from a facebook mastering engineers forum will enlighten your Christmas?
>>> 
>>> "FWIW, I just set up a new MacBook Pro which came with MacOS Monterey already installed, and Sound Check was ON by default.
>>> Apple may finally be moving to having Loudness Normalization on by default which will take awhile to affect all or a majority of users, but it's a start.
>>> I also set up a new iPhone a few weeks ago and I just checked and Sound Check was also turned on, but I can't say with 100% certainty that I didn't turn that on myself because I didn't think to check when I first set it up.
>>> For computers and phones I always do a clean install, but I'm not sure what this means for users who choose to migrate all their settings from their old device.
>>> Either way, it looks like Apple's shift is slowly happening and they'll no longer be the oddball streaming service that doesn't have it on by default in their desktop and mobile apps. 
>>> - Justin Perkins?
>>> 
>>> Enjoy?
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> Eelco
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> MLA mailing list
>>> MLA at grimmaudio.nl
>>> http://grimmaudio.nl/mailman/listinfo/mla_grimmaudio.nl
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From eelco at grimmaudio.com  Thu Dec 23 23:25:02 2021
From: eelco at grimmaudio.com (Grimm | Eelco)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:25:02 +0100
Subject: [MLA] Apple seems to have turned Soundcheck ON by default...
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	<817C944E-697F-40D8-8E33-11F9E7635B87@me.com>
Message-ID: <0B8FE147-FE7E-4772-B5D6-3AABF644A970@grimmaudio.com>

Hi Bob,

> My daughter just go a Monteray MacBook Pro and I had her open up Apple Music and Sound Check was NOT checked.
> 
> I don?t know if she imported her files from her old MacBook pro and that setting was copied from that!

Hmm, that?s very well possible. In that case the impact of this ?default? is very small of course, it will only affect people who are new to Apple devices.

Let?s ask Buddy Judge. Bob Katz, did you already contact him about this recently?

All the best,
Eelco

