From kevin.gross at avanw.com  Thu Feb  1 22:56:47 2018
From: kevin.gross at avanw.com (Kevin Gross)
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 14:56:47 -0700
Subject: [MLA] Fwd:  MLA web site
In-Reply-To: <CALw1_Q3yJfquYFFvsj-YT8KDAiKZU2myg3iAJbu6UQ6uQZynMw@mail.gmail.com>
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I did not hear back from Robin on this private question. Apologies for
resending to MLA reflector now.

Kevin Gross - AVA Networks

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kevin Gross <kevin.gross at avanw.com>
Date: Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MLA] MLA web site
To: Robin Reumers <robinreumers at gmail.com>


Hi Robin,

I'm getting in to make final tweaks and I have questions. Pardon me as it
has been quite a few years since I last worked on Wordpress and it appears
to have changed a lot since and my mind has probably dumped whatever I did
originally know.

   1. We're now getting a "Nothing Found" message on the Home page (
   http://music-loudness.eu-central-1.elasticbeanstalk.com/
   <http://music-loudness.eu-central-1.elasticbeanstalk.com/>). As
   discussed on the MLA reflector, we actually want to designate the About Us
   page as a static home page. Documentation indicates this is site
   administrative function (https://codex.wordpress.org/
   Creating_a_Static_Front_Page) but these functions don't seem to be
   available to me with the account you've given.
   2. The text on the About Us page you've set up for us is in "Left
   Column" and I can't do WYSIWUG formatting there. I can just move the
   content to the main portion of the page but I'm probably missing something.
   3. I don't see how to edit the content of the Links and Papers pages.


Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
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From robinreumers at gmail.com  Thu Feb  1 23:03:06 2018
From: robinreumers at gmail.com (Robin Reumers)
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 23:03:06 +0100
Subject: [MLA] MLA web site
In-Reply-To: <CALw1_Q0Uom6f+wibRexJCE0Cby+4O+0pdL82B-rdMU=eTOqPXQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<D703EBA4-CBB9-4CE4-845E-082CC82C4E71@digido.com>
	<5D70F5AE-CAA0-4F9D-AA00-E40BF7782AEE@grimmaudio.com>
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	<D3E62453-050B-45F5-AA3E-1CDB7A867102@mastering-media.co.uk>
	<A458F312-C9F1-4EC5-97AB-B6AADA6140C3@gmail.com>
	<F647FBBB-FD22-42BA-BF8B-A0A32F31BA21@mac.com>
	<3922a1ce-7fd4-a290-10b6-6dd38d57cbe4@digido.com>
	<CALw1_Q0B5F6pKhiEBcCFS7995Hw6UKiOz+=os9CfhzaeBPYTbQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1b5dceb-3ed1-7d3d-4139-0e424a8c95b4@digido.com>
	<89CCD91F-D8EC-41C0-B9BE-227AC5E9697B@gmail.com>
	<d6c69809-9c70-498f-7209-4f1260ff96bf@digido.com>
	<D34A92FC-15E6-4F69-AC90-AC7C559EB47C@grimmaudio.com>
	<CALw1_Q3p0y88NDjb9ZqZEyZYPjmDkWGr9nQaVXmhe57UZPuF-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<9D86FA56-791D-4D9F-A929-C85D64F93D6E@gmail.com>
	<CALw1_Q3yJfquYFFvsj-YT8KDAiKZU2myg3iAJbu6UQ6uQZynMw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALw1_Q0Uom6f+wibRexJCE0Cby+4O+0pdL82B-rdMU=eTOqPXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03BA74A4-35A6-403E-9195-8018A3C250FC@gmail.com>

Hi Kevin,

Unfortunately your personal message went to my spam folder, so I did not see it until now. I?ll send you a reply to these questions in the next 30min.

Best wishes,

Robin

> On 01 Feb 2018, at 22:56, Kevin Gross <kevin.gross at avanw.com> wrote:
> 
> I did not hear back from Robin on this private question. Apologies for resending to MLA reflector now.
> 
> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kevin Gross <kevin.gross at avanw.com <mailto:kevin.gross at avanw.com>>
> Date: Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [MLA] MLA web site
> To: Robin Reumers <robinreumers at gmail.com <mailto:robinreumers at gmail.com>>
> 
> 
> Hi Robin,
> 
> I'm getting in to make final tweaks and I have questions. Pardon me as it has been quite a few years since I last worked on Wordpress and it appears to have changed a lot since and my mind has probably dumped whatever I did originally know.
> We're now getting a "Nothing Found" message on the Home page (http://music-loudness.eu-central-1.elasticbeanstalk.com/ <http://music-loudness.eu-central-1.elasticbeanstalk.com/>). As discussed on the MLA reflector, we actually want to designate the About Us page as a static home page. Documentation indicates this is site administrative function (https://codex.wordpress.org/Creating_a_Static_Front_Page <https://codex.wordpress.org/Creating_a_Static_Front_Page>) but these functions don't seem to be available to me with the account you've given.
> The text on the About Us page you've set up for us is in "Left Column" and I can't do WYSIWUG formatting there. I can just move the content to the main portion of the page but I'm probably missing something.
> I don't see how to edit the content of the Links and Papers pages.
> 
> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> MLA mailing list
> MLA at grimmaudio.nl
> http://grimmaudio.nl/mailman/listinfo/mla_grimmaudio.nl

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From kevin.gross at avanw.com  Fri Feb  2 19:41:34 2018
From: kevin.gross at avanw.com (Kevin Gross)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 11:41:34 -0700
Subject: [MLA] MLA web site
In-Reply-To: <AC14E202-CB59-4C31-8308-D5E43FBC15A0@gmail.com>
References: <CALw1_Q16Enag8zCpiA8W=m8=ju5ecoLj=JEpiHC6zngs+u_mfg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALw1_Q3yeyzZvk9YSrdUTKcDUnxWuF07sekzSxS5TwS7bO_pAA@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like the Wayback machine
<https://web.archive.org/web/20161225173239/http://music-loudness.com/index.php/weblinks>
did not retain the URLs for our web links page. I've been able to partially
recreate it. I would appreciate any help checking it, fixing dead links and
filling in stuff I could not find. If there are any suggestions for stuff
that should be added or removed for publication on the new web site, we can
discuss that too.

   1. Matt Mayfield download
   <https://www.digido.com/portfolio-item/matt-mayfield-video/> - Matt
   Mayfield's Loudness War video as a high resolution download.
   2. AES Streaming Loudness Recommendations
   <http://www.aes.org/technical/documents/AESTD1004_1_15_10.pdf>
   3. EBU Tech <https://tech.ebu.ch/home> - This page features downloads of
   important EBU specifications on loudness.
   4. Guns 'N Roses: Dynamics and quality win the Loudness Wars (was at
   http://www.gatewaymastering.com/gateway_LoudnessWars.asp but now dead)
   5. Loudness Online Illustrated
   <http://productionadvice.co.uk/online-loudness/>
   6. Loudness wars: Why Music Sounds Worse (NPR)
   <https://www.npr.org/2009/12/31/122114058/the-loudness-wars-why-music-sounds-worse>
   7. Ralph Kessler illustrates the wild west of streaming (I can't find
   this one)
   8. Rolling Stone talks about "Death Magnetic" (I can't find this one)
   9. Loudness Peace is Almost Here
   <https://www.digido.com/portfolio-item/loudness-war-peace-is-almost-here/>
   10. Good links on loudness (I can't find this one)
   11. You Tube Put the Nail in the Coffin (I can't find this one)
   12. Taming Wild Mastering Levels
   <http://www.moultonlabs.com/more/taming_wild_mastering_levels/>
   13. Mixing Tip: Turn it Down (I can't find this one)
   14. My Album is Louder Than Your Album (I can't find this one)
   15. WSJ: Even Heavy Metal Fans Complain
   <https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122228767729272339> (paywalled)


Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
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From robinreumers at gmail.com  Thu Feb  8 20:57:24 2018
From: robinreumers at gmail.com (Robin Reumers)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 20:57:24 +0100
Subject: [MLA] MLA web site
In-Reply-To: <CALw1_Q3yeyzZvk9YSrdUTKcDUnxWuF07sekzSxS5TwS7bO_pAA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<D3E62453-050B-45F5-AA3E-1CDB7A867102@mastering-media.co.uk>
	<A458F312-C9F1-4EC5-97AB-B6AADA6140C3@gmail.com>
	<F647FBBB-FD22-42BA-BF8B-A0A32F31BA21@mac.com>
	<3922a1ce-7fd4-a290-10b6-6dd38d57cbe4@digido.com>
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	<89CCD91F-D8EC-41C0-B9BE-227AC5E9697B@gmail.com>
	<d6c69809-9c70-498f-7209-4f1260ff96bf@digido.com>
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	<AC14E202-CB59-4C31-8308-D5E43FBC15A0@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMvxexJCYpS9iHa7yei3976uY8x0EU_d41gd55KrsNfMXZh0dA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kevin,

I fixed the links and tweaked the design, based on the current content
that's available. Please let me know if you need anything else.

Best wishes,

Robin


On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Kevin Gross <kevin.gross at avanw.com> wrote:

> Looks like the Wayback machine
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20161225173239/http://music-loudness.com/index.php/weblinks>
> did not retain the URLs for our web links page. I've been able to partially
> recreate it. I would appreciate any help checking it, fixing dead links and
> filling in stuff I could not find. If there are any suggestions for stuff
> that should be added or removed for publication on the new web site, we can
> discuss that too.
>
>    1. Matt Mayfield download
>    <https://www.digido.com/portfolio-item/matt-mayfield-video/> - Matt
>    Mayfield's Loudness War video as a high resolution download.
>    2. AES Streaming Loudness Recommendations
>    <http://www.aes.org/technical/documents/AESTD1004_1_15_10.pdf>
>    3. EBU Tech <https://tech.ebu.ch/home> - This page features downloads
>    of important EBU specifications on loudness.
>    4. Guns 'N Roses: Dynamics and quality win the Loudness Wars (was at
>    http://www.gatewaymastering.com/gateway_LoudnessWars.asp
>    <http://www.gatewaymastering.com/gateway_LoudnessWars.asp> but now
>    dead)
>    5. Loudness Online Illustrated
>    <http://productionadvice.co.uk/online-loudness/>
>    6. Loudness wars: Why Music Sounds Worse (NPR)
>    <https://www.npr.org/2009/12/31/122114058/the-loudness-wars-why-music-sounds-worse>
>    7. Ralph Kessler illustrates the wild west of streaming (I can't find
>    this one)
>    8. Rolling Stone talks about "Death Magnetic" (I can't find this one)
>    9. Loudness Peace is Almost Here
>    <https://www.digido.com/portfolio-item/loudness-war-peace-is-almost-here/>
>    10. Good links on loudness (I can't find this one)
>    11. You Tube Put the Nail in the Coffin (I can't find this one)
>    12. Taming Wild Mastering Levels
>    <http://www.moultonlabs.com/more/taming_wild_mastering_levels/>
>    13. Mixing Tip: Turn it Down (I can't find this one)
>    14. My Album is Louder Than Your Album (I can't find this one)
>    15. WSJ: Even Heavy Metal Fans Complain
>    <https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122228767729272339> (paywalled)
>
>
> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
>
> _______________________________________________
> MLA mailing list
> MLA at grimmaudio.nl
> http://grimmaudio.nl/mailman/listinfo/mla_grimmaudio.nl
>
>


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From kevin.gross at avanw.com  Fri Feb  9 15:31:06 2018
From: kevin.gross at avanw.com (Kevin Gross)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 07:31:06 -0700
Subject: [MLA] MLA web site
In-Reply-To: <CAMvxexJCYpS9iHa7yei3976uY8x0EU_d41gd55KrsNfMXZh0dA@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Robin.

Sorry that I've had to suspend my work on he website this week. I should
have time to get back to it next week. Thanks for your patience everyone.

Kevin Gross - AVA Networks

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Robin Reumers <robinreumers at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> I fixed the links and tweaked the design, based on the current content
> that's available. Please let me know if you need anything else.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Robin
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Kevin Gross <kevin.gross at avanw.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like the Wayback machine
>> <https://web.archive.org/web/20161225173239/http://music-loudness.com/index.php/weblinks>
>> did not retain the URLs for our web links page. I've been able to partially
>> recreate it. I would appreciate any help checking it, fixing dead links and
>> filling in stuff I could not find. If there are any suggestions for stuff
>> that should be added or removed for publication on the new web site, we can
>> discuss that too.
>>
>>    1. Matt Mayfield download
>>    <https://www.digido.com/portfolio-item/matt-mayfield-video/> - Matt
>>    Mayfield's Loudness War video as a high resolution download.
>>    2. AES Streaming Loudness Recommendations
>>    <http://www.aes.org/technical/documents/AESTD1004_1_15_10.pdf>
>>    3. EBU Tech <https://tech.ebu.ch/home> - This page features downloads
>>    of important EBU specifications on loudness.
>>    4. Guns 'N Roses: Dynamics and quality win the Loudness Wars (was at
>>    http://www.gatewaymastering.com/gateway_LoudnessWars.asp
>>    <http://www.gatewaymastering.com/gateway_LoudnessWars.asp> but now
>>    dead)
>>    5. Loudness Online Illustrated
>>    <http://productionadvice.co.uk/online-loudness/>
>>    6. Loudness wars: Why Music Sounds Worse (NPR)
>>    <https://www.npr.org/2009/12/31/122114058/the-loudness-wars-why-music-sounds-worse>
>>    7. Ralph Kessler illustrates the wild west of streaming (I can't find
>>    this one)
>>    8. Rolling Stone talks about "Death Magnetic" (I can't find this one)
>>    9. Loudness Peace is Almost Here
>>    <https://www.digido.com/portfolio-item/loudness-war-peace-is-almost-here/>
>>    10. Good links on loudness (I can't find this one)
>>    11. You Tube Put the Nail in the Coffin (I can't find this one)
>>    12. Taming Wild Mastering Levels
>>    <http://www.moultonlabs.com/more/taming_wild_mastering_levels/>
>>    13. Mixing Tip: Turn it Down (I can't find this one)
>>    14. My Album is Louder Than Your Album (I can't find this one)
>>    15. WSJ: Even Heavy Metal Fans Complain
>>    <https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122228767729272339> (paywalled)
>>
>>
>> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
>>
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>> MLA at grimmaudio.nl
>> http://grimmaudio.nl/mailman/listinfo/mla_grimmaudio.nl
>>
>>
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From kevin.gross at avanw.com  Tue Feb 20 02:03:59 2018
From: kevin.gross at avanw.com (Kevin Gross)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:03:59 -0700
Subject: [MLA] MLA web site
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Robin, sorry for taking so long to get pack to this.

Thanks for getting the links that I was able to recover put up on the Links
page. We haven't heard from any other members about the ones I was not able
to recover so we'll just have to go with what we have there.

I do have the correct text and links on the Home page now. If anyone sees
any problems or potential improvements there, let me know. I had to move
the content out of the "Left Column" content area so I could add the
hyperlinks (perhaps I can type HTML code in the Left Column text box but
that doesn't seem right). This puts the content in the middle of the page
which is fine. All the text is centered which is not so pretty. Let's go
for left justified or something. Also the styling on the links is too
subtle - they show up as underlined only when you hover the mouse over
them. Let's have something a bit more obvious to indicate these are
clickable.

The links on the Links page and paper on the Papers are in the "Left
Column" content area. We'll need to find a way to make layout consistent
with the Home page.

I get an error when I try to open the Loudness Normalization paper on the
Papers page.
[image: Inline image 2]

In addition to getting this working, we want to have a direct PDF download
link.

The Loudness Normalization paper has a tidal logo. That is not appropriate
for this paper. If we want a graphic associated with this paper, maybe use
this -
[image: Inline image 1]

We do want to include a link to Eelco's paper (
https://octo.hku.nl/octo/repository/getfile?id=qLlZPGSVXFM) on the Papers
page

We have decided not to have an About Us page; all that information is on
the Home page. You have removed the About Us link from navigation at the
top of the pages. We still have an About Us navigation at the bottom of the
pages.

Kevin Gross - AVA Networks

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 7:31 AM, Kevin Gross <kevin.gross at avanw.com> wrote:

> Thanks Robin.
>
> Sorry that I've had to suspend my work on he website this week. I should
> have time to get back to it next week. Thanks for your patience everyone.
>
> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Robin Reumers <robinreumers at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> I fixed the links and tweaked the design, based on the current content
>> that's available. Please let me know if you need anything else.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Kevin Gross <kevin.gross at avanw.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the Wayback machine
>>> <https://web.archive.org/web/20161225173239/http://music-loudness.com/index.php/weblinks>
>>> did not retain the URLs for our web links page. I've been able to partially
>>> recreate it. I would appreciate any help checking it, fixing dead links and
>>> filling in stuff I could not find. If there are any suggestions for stuff
>>> that should be added or removed for publication on the new web site, we can
>>> discuss that too.
>>>
>>>    1. Matt Mayfield download
>>>    <https://www.digido.com/portfolio-item/matt-mayfield-video/> - Matt
>>>    Mayfield's Loudness War video as a high resolution download.
>>>    2. AES Streaming Loudness Recommendations
>>>    <http://www.aes.org/technical/documents/AESTD1004_1_15_10.pdf>
>>>    3. EBU Tech <https://tech.ebu.ch/home> - This page features
>>>    downloads of important EBU specifications on loudness.
>>>    4. Guns 'N Roses: Dynamics and quality win the Loudness Wars (was at
>>>    http://www.gatewaymastering.com/gateway_LoudnessWars.asp
>>>    <http://www.gatewaymastering.com/gateway_LoudnessWars.asp> but now
>>>    dead)
>>>    5. Loudness Online Illustrated
>>>    <http://productionadvice.co.uk/online-loudness/>
>>>    6. Loudness wars: Why Music Sounds Worse (NPR)
>>>    <https://www.npr.org/2009/12/31/122114058/the-loudness-wars-why-music-sounds-worse>
>>>    7. Ralph Kessler illustrates the wild west of streaming (I can't
>>>    find this one)
>>>    8. Rolling Stone talks about "Death Magnetic" (I can't find this one)
>>>    9. Loudness Peace is Almost Here
>>>    <https://www.digido.com/portfolio-item/loudness-war-peace-is-almost-here/>
>>>    10. Good links on loudness (I can't find this one)
>>>    11. You Tube Put the Nail in the Coffin (I can't find this one)
>>>    12. Taming Wild Mastering Levels
>>>    <http://www.moultonlabs.com/more/taming_wild_mastering_levels/>
>>>    13. Mixing Tip: Turn it Down (I can't find this one)
>>>    14. My Album is Louder Than Your Album (I can't find this one)
>>>    15. WSJ: Even Heavy Metal Fans Complain
>>>    <https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122228767729272339> (paywalled)
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin Gross - AVA Networks
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> MLA mailing list
>>> MLA at grimmaudio.nl
>>> http://grimmaudio.nl/mailman/listinfo/mla_grimmaudio.nl
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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