[MLA] MLA web site

Bob Katz bobkatz at digido.com
Tue Nov 14 16:29:44 CET 2017


I care... no ads, please. Unless we get a sponsor, a reputable company, 
in that case we can put an underwriting banner on the bottom.


Bob



On 11/14/17 9:18 AM, Grimm | Eelco wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do we care if there are advertisements on the site? We could also just 
> take a free website at Weebly: https://www.weebly.com/?lang=en.
> AFAIK the advertisements are just 'Made with Weebly' banners, no 3rd 
> part ads (like with a free Mailchimp account). And we have to link our 
> domain to the weebly.com <http://weebly.com> subdomain. Plus it is 500 
> MB max...
>
> Cheers,
> Eelco
>
> On 14 nov. 2017, at 15:01, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com 
> <mailto:bobkatz at digido.com>> wrote:
>
>> Dear Eelco. Ultimately a professional is the best solution but my guy 
>> is too expensive for us I think. I'm paying around $500 a year for 
>> his maintenance and a few thousand for the initial design.
>>
>> My site runs on a highly-customized WordPress. We do have Wordfence 
>> running but I'm not a security expert. I do know there was more to 
>> our security, including capcha, and on my host I am running extra 
>> security. I have full access to the back-end and I have space for 
>> backup and am willing with our group to contribute to the cost of 
>> some necessary plugins, including updraft pro and maybe a few others.
>>
>> I advise if you/we can find a very astute student volunteer who likes 
>> audio and our goals, who is not into cookie cutter templates, who 
>> understands PHP and has experience with security. Those would be the 
>> economical ingredients. If he/she will keep the WordPress up and up 
>> to date as a volunteer then we ask a group can volunteer to maintain 
>> the articles. That's all I ask.
>>
>> I pay for the site and I host the domain. I pay for the domain. I'm 
>> more than happy to contribute to articles, but I have to draw the 
>> line before site design, maintenance and security. For that we must 
>> choose a pro or a pro equivalent, wisely and economically.
>>
>> Ian, I devised the original site in Joomla and then we got hacked 
>> because I was not maintaining the joomla. I'm through with Joomla. I 
>> would not advise using the way back machine or even my stored backup 
>> (if I could find it) because more people are into WordPress these 
>> days and Joomla or Drupal are long in the tooth. As Eelco points out, 
>> a good looking site in WordPress can be put up in no time. We just 
>> want a pro or a competent geek student to put it up, make it secure 
>> and keep it secure.
>>
>> Are you watching over the back end of your site like a hawk, Ian? 
>>  Personally I feel quite a lot of peace of mind having my pro watch 
>> over my site for a measly $500 a year. But I think that's a bit too 
>> much for Music-Loudness to sustain, don't you?  Plus, my pro would 
>> not maintain a site he didn't design, which seems reasonable.
>>
>> Reminds me of the old rate sheet:
>>
>> $25 an hour if I do it
>> $50 an hour if you watch
>> $100 if I do it and you help
>> $200 if you do it and I watch.
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> My iPhone made me write this. Quotes only below this line. Nothing 
>> more to see here.
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Ian Shepherd <ian at mastering-media.co.uk 
>> <mailto:ian at mastering-media.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>>
>>> All my sites (5 or 6) are running on Wordpress. I got hacked several 
>>> years ago so installed the free versions of Wordfence and iThemes 
>>> Security and have been secure ever since. Maybe Eelco’s students 
>>> would keep an eye on things for us ?
>>>
>>> Having said that, can we not pull the source code of the original 
>>> site from the Wayback Machine and re-install it ?
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 13 Nov 2017, at 23:27, Grimm | Eelco <eelco at grimmaudio.com 
>>>> <mailto:eelco at grimmaudio.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>
>>>> What do you suggest as solution? Is your current website based upon 
>>>> Wordpress or some other CMS? We could maybe ask your professional 
>>>> to maintain the MLA pages too - I'm willing to contribute to that.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Eelco
>>>>
>>>>> Guys. We have a domain, I've got control of it and I've been 
>>>>> paying for the domain renewals ever since we put it up  However, I 
>>>>> cannot spend the time to update it or spiff it up. If anyone would 
>>>>> like to do the maintenance or design on it, just let me know and 
>>>>> I'll send you all the particulars.
>>>>>
>>>>> The thing about Wordpress is it needs constant maintenance and the 
>>>>> number of hackers and attacks have increased tremendously. All the 
>>>>> bad guys want to take down vulnerable worpress sites. It takes 
>>>>> more than just a website, it takes knowledge and experience. 
>>>>> Anyone can write a wordpress site, but keeping it up is another 
>>>>> story.  You need lots of good protections, a foolproof .htaccess 
>>>>> file, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why I have a professional maintaining my site. Someone who 
>>>>> spends every day pruning all the sites under his control. There 
>>>>> was a time when I would maintain a site myself, but I realize that 
>>>>> I wear too many hats already and that I cannot possibly beat his 
>>>>> knowledge and expertise. To date, not one of his sites has ever 
>>>>> been hacked.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/11/17 4:48 PM, Grimm | Eelco wrote:
>>>>>>> What can se do to get the MLA site back in a presentable state? 
>>>>>>> I am in the process of making contacts at tech companies 
>>>>>>> (Amazon, Google) to get loudness normalization implemented in 
>>>>>>> streaming services and am embarrassed to refer my contacts to 
>>>>>>> our website - music-loudness.com <http://music-loudness.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Students of mine have build this site in just a day with a 
>>>>>> Wordpress template: http://tripleacompany.nl 
>>>>>> <http://tripleacompany.nl/> (it is for a 'virtual company' that 
>>>>>> they are running as a group proejct in their graduate year).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could ask if they are willing to make something like this for 
>>>>>> us. But we need a domain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Eelco
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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