[MLA] Permission to use MLA as the petitioner for....

[Kevin Gross]

I tried to get Ian into the group a couple years back and that did not
happen and that was fine. My position is unchanged since then. If others
have a different feeling about things now, maybe it makes sense to revisit.

I am not so enthusiastic about the petition. I agree that we have exhausted
our normal options with Apple. I am not so confident that they will be
moved by a petition. I think it is actually possible that they will further
entrench themselves in response.

With other companies, we have certainly not exhausted our options and there
is a lot of potential progress there. I will read the petition when a draft
is available. I will be looking for something that is productive and
conveys a cooperative spirit with OS vendors and audio companies and
services.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bob Katz <bobkatz at digido.com> wrote:

> Dear Fellow MLA members:
>
> First of all, Eelco and I would like to nominate Ian Shepherd to become a
> member of the MLA. May I please have a second and a show of hands approving
> his membership...
>
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>
> After the whirlwind AES show I would like to put you up to date on a
> project that I began and which Eelco and Ian and I are currently working
> on: A Petition, intended to be put on change.org, tentatively titled:
> "Say No To A Streaming Loudness War". I've delicately mentioned this
> petition idea to a few people at the Convention and everyone, I mean
> literally everyone, is enthusiastic about this idea, whose time has
> definitely come.
>
> As you know, we have spent several years trying to bring Apple and other
> companies and streamers to the table and so far had no response. And in
> fact, Apple informed the Technical committee for Streaming loudness that it
> is against their company policy to participate in any outside
> organizations.
>
> So, at this moment here is the status of the petition:
>
> It is currently in draft. As soon as the three of us are happy with its
> content, which could take a few more weeks, we will let you all see the
> draft and give us your feedback.
>
> I'm not certain when the date of AES president position changes, but I'll
> refer to Andres Mayo as past president and John Krivit as current president
> for our convenience:
>
> Andres Mayo, AES past President and mastering engineer, is very much in
> favor of this petition. Andres and I participated in trying to get Apple to
> become a part of our technical committee and failed. John Krivit, AES
> president, is also very much in favor of this petition.
>
> However, it is highly unlikely that the AES can act as an advocacy
> organization for the petition, in any case, which is ironic, since the goal
> of the society is to encourage high quality audio. Nevertheless, even if
> the AES were an advocacy organization, it would take so much red tape to
> get it to approve the petition that we all know we should find another way
> to make it happen.
>
> My proposal is that the MLA become the named organization behind the
> promulgation of this petition and I would like to ask your permission to
> make that happen. Of course you all will have approval of all our actions
> and nothing will happen without your knowledge and consent. May I have a
> second of this motion and a show of hands to approve this motion: "MLA to
> be the organization behind a streaming loudness petition to be put on
> change.org."
>
> Other good news: We are beginning to round up friends, producers,
> engineers who have contacts with important musicians and artists, who will
> be willing to sign this petition. Please start thinking about your
> contacts, prominent musicians whose name at the top of the petition will
> get the attention of Apple, Google, Spotify, and other streamers that are
> the petitionees. Let us know here the names of prominent artists that you
> could personally contact. I know that Thomas is a friend of Mark Knopfler
> and he would be a slam dunk. I won't bother to name other names right now
> that we have contact with, but I can assure you that the potential list of
> signers will be prominent and thus will gain a lot of attention and
> publicity, even in the regular news.
>
> More news about this exciting development in the near future. I hope you
> all will come on board for this important next step in the struggle to get
> streamers on board with loudness normalization using a sensible target.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Bob
>
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